jose charbonneau - aber was könnte der gemacht haben .... ?
gruß cds23
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In Antwort auf: jason ruff für 20 maliges schläger fallen lassen im ersten drittel....
Da wäre er aber net in Form gewesen, wenn es nur 20 mal gewesen wäre !!!!!! ------------------------------ Neulich in der Apotheke: Playoffentzug - da gibt es doch auch was von Berlin-Chemie !!!!
[Ironie Modus an]Ich weiss gar nicht was die Spieler wollen, die bekommen doch pünktlich ihr Geld[Modus aus]
Erich Maria Remarque: Ich dachte immer, jeder Mensch sei gegen den Krieg, bis ich herausfand, daß es welche gibt, die nicht hingehen müssen.
es war petit, den journeyman award fuer die meisten team wechsel, oder? gruss, joe "Wenn Sie mich verstanden haben, habe ich mich nicht präzise genug ausgedrückt" http://www.eintracht-eishockey.de
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In Antwort auf: jason ruff für 20 maliges schläger fallen lassen im ersten drittel....
Der war gut
Glückwunsch an Wes Walz!
Der Name ist gefallen, es geht um Michel Petit!
So, jetzt schaff ich ne halbe Stunde e bissi was, dann wird aufgelöst. Ihr könnt ja noch e bissi raten, welcher Rekord des is. Es ist gar net so spektakulär. Letzter Tipp: der andere Spieler, mit dem er sich den Rekord teilt, ist J.-J. Daigneault!
Gegen einen Krieg im Irak!!! Es gibt eine neue Achse des Bösen, sie beginnt in Washington...
"Eishockey ist doch ganz einfach, man muss sich nur den Puck schnappen und ins Tor schießen." (Brian Sutter, Head-Coach und Ex-Spieler der Chicago Blackhawks)
In Antwort auf:jose charbonneau - aber was könnte der gemacht haben .... ?
Als der Spieler, der seinen Mitspielern die meisten Versicherungspolicen in einem Drittel verkauft hat !!! ------------------------------ Neulich in der Apotheke: Playoffentzug - da gibt es doch auch was von Berlin-Chemie !!!!
[Ironie Modus an]Ich weiss gar nicht was die Spieler wollen, die bekommen doch pünktlich ihr Geld[Modus aus]
Erich Maria Remarque: Ich dachte immer, jeder Mensch sei gegen den Krieg, bis ich herausfand, daß es welche gibt, die nicht hingehen müssen.
Noch einmal Glückwunsch an Joe Sakic! Das mit dem arbeiten hat sich erledigt:
Die 100 virtuellen Skorerpunkte erhält Joe Sakic!
Volltreffer, Michel Petit wechselte innerhalb der NHL zu 10 verschiedenen Teams. Damit ist er zusammen mit J.-J. Daigneault Rekordhalter der NHL.
Jetzt nochmal schnell editiert: Wes erhält auch noch 100 virtuelle Skorerpunkte, da er auch schneller war, als ich auflösen konnte.
Nochmal edit: Ich bin ja net so, leo bekommt auch die virtuellen 100 Punkte!!!
Gegen einen Krieg im Irak!!! Es gibt eine neue Achse des Bösen, sie beginnt in Washington...
"Eishockey ist doch ganz einfach, man muss sich nur den Puck schnappen und ins Tor schießen." (Brian Sutter, Head-Coach und Ex-Spieler der Chicago Blackhawks)
Kurz vor Transferschluß brodelt die Gerüchteküche. Anscheinend will der HC Forst Bozen Foxes einen weiteren Verteidiger verpflichten. Und zwar keinen geringeren als den Frankokanadier Michel Petit, Erstrundenwahl der Vancouver Canucks 1982. Petit, 38, brachte es in seiner NHL-Karriere auf 827 Spiele, 328 Punkte und über 1800 Strafminuten. Insgesamt hat er bei zehn NHL-Teams gespielt (Damit hält er einen NHL-Rekord!). Zuletzt war er bei den Frankfurt Lions in der DEL unter Vertrag.
At the end of the previous article, as you might recall, I asked and answered the question of who had played against the most major league hockey franchises. On the flip side of the coin, who played with the most major league franchises? In the original Klein and Reif Hockey Compendium, Klein and Reif touch upon this subject and produce two lists to answer this question. The first list contains a list of 12 players who, as of 1985-86, had played for 7 or more NHL franchises (there were actually 13 players; they missed Randy Holt, but I won't count that against them because, as I discover while writing this article, it's not really easy to determine this information, and it was probably way harder in the pre-Internet days of the mid 1980s). They also listed 7 players who played for 8 or more franchises in the NHL and WHA combined.
The new edition of the book doesn't contain these lists, but I'd imagine that it would have something to do with the fact that one of their acknowlegements mentions someone editing down their manuscript when "it finally came in a mere 150% longer than was called for in the contract". Another possible reason why the book doesn't contain these lists is that they'd be so long now. For example, there are now around 80 players who have played for 7 or more NHL franchises.
At the top of the list of people who have played with the most major league franchises are five people who have played for 10, and they are: Name # of seasons played First season Last season Bobby Sheehan 13 1969-70 1981-82 Wayne Connolly 15 1960-61 1976-77 Michel Petit 16 1982-83 1997-98 J.J. Daigneault 16 1984-85 2000-01 Larry Hillman 22 1954-55 1975-76
So, if someone were to ask you who the most travelled players of all time were, the answer would be the list above, right? Wow, this was a quick article for me to write, wasn't it? Hold on a second, though. What do we mean by "most travelled"? If we mean "someone who has played for the most major league franchises", then that would be the people above. But maybe we mean something different.
What if I were to ask who the best goal-scorer of all time was? If raw total career goals were the only criterion, then Gordie Howe would be the winner (contrary to what you might be led to think by The-WHA-Never-Actually-Existed historical revisionists, Gordie Howe scored 975 major league goals, whereas Wayne Gretzky only totalled 940). Well, yeah, but Howe played for 32 seasons, and Gretzky only played for 21. If he had played 11 more seasons, he'd surely have scored far more than 35 more goals. Okay, but most of Gretzky's goals were racked up in an age when league-wide scoring was high, while Howe played a lot of his career in the relatively-low-scoring 1950's and 1960's. Sure, but... and so on, until the cows come home.
Back to the question of who the most travelled players were. All of the five players listed above had relatively long careers, giving them more opportunities to play with lots of teams, and they all played during eras when there were a lot of teams available to play for (there were 32 major-league hockey teams active during 1974-75 and 1975-76, when three of the players above were active, and as for the other two, well, we all know how many teams are in the NHL nowadays).
To further emphasise the point I'm making, out of the 80 players who have played for 7 or more NHL franchises, about half of them have played in the NHL no later than two years ago. Obviously, this list is populated primarily by players who have played recently because there are more NHL teams than there ever were before. Also, there are more ways for players to move from one team to another. Expansion drafts are one of these ways. The doors of free agency have been opened somewhat wider in the past few years as well. Another reason is that, with nowhere near enough talent to go around, players' careers, on the average, last longer than they did ten years ago. Would Paul Coffey have been able to play for eight different franchises if his career were, say, 14 years long instead of 21 years long? Probably not.
On the other side of the coin, obviously no-one on that list could have possibly played their entire career in the inaccurately-named "Original Six" era. Out of those 80 people on that list, the only one who played their entire career before 1966-67 was Carl Voss, who played for seven franchises at a time when there were only ten to play for. Furthermore, he managed to do this in a span of only eight years. No wonder he's in the Hall of Fame.
To summarise, it was a lot easier for Sheehan, Connolly, Petit, Daigneault and Hillman to play for 10 teams than it would be for someone like Voss. But shouldn't Voss get more credit for his travelling than these five guys should? Is there a way we can statistically level the playing field, so to speak? Of course there is, otherwise I wouldn't even have asked the question. My proposed statistic for measuring the most travelled players of all time should give credit for playing with a lot of teams in a short period of time, and should give credit for playing for a lot of teams when there are relatively fewer teams around.
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