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Robert # 4 Offline

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28.05.2002 23:29
#61 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
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28.05.2002 23:37
#62 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
@ Schobbie:
Meine Rede !!!

@ Chris:
Bitte mit Y

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29.05.2002 09:55
#63 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
Colorado vs. Detroit 3:2

It's a must-win game, but Wings not desperate

By Lindsay Berra
ESPN The Magazine

DENVER -- For the Detroit Red Wings, it's now or never.
They must win Wednesday night, or their manufactured Dream Team goes home Cup-less.
They're down 3-2 in the Western Conference finals, facing elimination and a nasty crowd at the Pepsi Center. It's time for their ringers to ring, their grinders to grind, their movers to move and their shakers to shake.
Last night at Joe Louis Arena, amidst a sold-out sea of red and white jerseys, the Wings just couldn't carry out their game plan.
Before Game 5, the Wings talked about getting more shots on Avs goaltender Patrick Roy. They talked about abandoning the pursuit for a perfect play and creating traffic in front of Roy. They talked about getting more chances on the power play.
But despite their efforts and pregame plans, Detroit finished the game with 27 shots, two less than the Avalanche. They had a perfect chance to take the lead when the Avs took a bench minor for having too many men on the ice 13:06 into the third period, but the Wings couldn't tap into their power-play well. With Avalanche winger Brian Willsie in the box for interference, Detroit captain Steve Yzerman stuffed the puck past Patrick Roy for Detroit's only goal in Game 5. It wasn't pretty, but it was in.
Facing elimination in Game 6, the plan is the same. No changes in strategy. "Whether we're down 3-2, or up 3-2, or tied 2-2, we look at every game the same. We know what we have to do," Yzerman said.
"We have to get more bodies in there on Patrick and score a couple of dirty goals," Detroit Grind-Liner Darren McCarty said. "This is the playoffs and it's not about pretty plays."
For Detroit to win, their big names have to get on the board. Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, and Sergei Fedorov have been very quiet so far. Between them, the trio have only two goals in the series. Last night, Hull had two shots blocked by sprawling winger Eric Messier.
Brendan Shanahan, who finished the regular season with 37 goals and a 13.4 shot percentage, has no goals on 22 shots in the series. In Game 5, he came close hitting the post with Roy sprawled on the ice and an open net in front of him.
"Hitting the post, that's in the past. We have to focus on the next one," Shanahan said. "It was a punishing drive home last night, but we can't dwell on it. We're getting chances. We just have to keep shooting, driving to the net, and creating traffic and we'll make it happen."
Despite facing a must-win situation, the Wings still remained positive.
"It's not frustrating at all, because really, what can you do?" Fedorov said. "Things happen. You wish something will change and go right for you once in a while, but if it doesn't, you can't just stop right there and make it all you think about."
"We'd be frustrated if we weren't getting chances, but these guys are getting their chances," McCarty said. "The goal scorers are still goal scorers, and if they keep getting the chances, they'll find the net."
This series has gone game for game. Each team has won on the road. Detroit's offense has made Colorado's defense -- namely Rob Blake and Greg de Vries -- abandon most of their offensive role. Detroit's defense has stifled Colorado's offense as well, holding Peter Forsberg, Joe Sakic, Chris Drury and Milan Hejduk to just a combined six goals.
"When you play five games, somebody's going to be up one," Detroit coach Scotty Bowman said. "But I think the series has been dead even."
So dead even that a lucky bounce or a cheap goal could be the deciding factor in Game 6. Now, wouldn't that be frustrating?


Before and after, Forsberg makes all the right moves

By Terry Frei
Special to ESPN.com

Yes, we've joked, too: The way Peter Forsberg is playing, we can expect 57 veteran players to inform their general managers they intend to take leaves of absence for the entire 2002-03 regular season, then show up in time for the playoffs.
If Mario Lemieux could be assured that his team could make the playoffs without him, he might ponder sitting in the owner's box, then suiting up for the Penguins in the playoffs.
Couldn't Wayne Gretzky at least still be effective on the power play in the postseason for Phoenix?
Could this be the start of a trend?
Then, we come back to the serious reality.
It's not as if the Swedish superstar took off for Maui last May, then spent the next 11 months sunning on the beach, playing golf, and eating before he returned in time for the 2002 playoffs -- which he has taken by storm.
Forsberg lost his spleen for heaven's sake, and that doesn't mean he left it in a bag in the overhead bin and forgot to take it with him when he got off the plane. It was removed surgically after it ruptured, and he was fortunate he was able to get immediate help when he doubled over in pain after Game 7 of the Western Conference semifinals a year ago.
Then he underwent so many foot and ankle surgeries, he piled up sufficient frequent patient points to get his next operation free.
Plus, there also are millions of reasons why no other NHL player is going to be willing to skip a regular season. Forsberg, after all, willingly gave up any claim to his salary for the first half of the season after he passed the team physical and skated with the team for the first few days of training camp.

Player to agent: "I'm taking the year off, without pay."
Agent to player: "WHAT? There must be $omething wrong with thi$ $tupid connection!"


Forsberg needed time off to both heal and rejuvenate his mental batteries, and he had the courage to admit it rather than go through the regular-season motions, collect his money and try to awaken for the playoffs.
It's possible, and maybe even probable, that he would have been in the Avalanche lineup sooner if he had put himself in the care of team medical personnel during his sabbatical because his foot tendon problem likely would have been discovered sooner.
But the Avalanche have to like the way this has worked out. They saved roughly $5 million in payroll this season, and Peter Forsberg not only returned when it really mattered, but he returned better than ever. Usually playing left wing on the Chris Drury-centered line along with Steve Reinprecht, Forsberg is back to his "turnback" tricks, so reminiscent of the leaner Gretzky.
When he swoops in Joe Louis Arena, for example, the savvy fans gasp -- or inhale in anticipation of something "bad" happening.
That "oh-no" reaction, whether expressed verbally or just in body language, is more of a compliment than booing or other forms of "villain" targeting. So when Forsberg got to the puck in the Detroit zone Monday night in overtime of Game 5 after Drury fanned on Brian Willsie's pass, Detroit fans recoiled.
Forsberg, like Gretzky, is not renowned for his breakaway skills, but you don't want him with the puck. That's true, whether you're watching from the Red Wings' bench or in the seats with an octopus tucked under your seat -- the one you would have tossed out if Brendan Shanahan had only buried that virtual empty-net chance in the final stages of regulation.
Forsberg beat Dominik Hasek.
His 27 points not only are far and away the top total of the playoffs, but that also means he has been in on half of Colorado's 54 goals in the playoffs.
And if the Avalanche can close out the Red Wings on Wednesday night in Denver -- certainly no better than a 50-50 proposition given the teams' parity and the road-warrior nature of both the series and the postseason -- Forsberg and Company would open the finals Saturday against Carolina in Denver.
So much for rust.
He's strong, he still has the knack to spot the contact coming and brace for it, or deliver the counterbalancing blow first. The instincts honed when he was playing for his father, Kent, in Ornskoldsvik, are sharper than ever. He is a combination of skill, savvy and toughness.
"I used to be amazed by what he does," said his linemate, Drury. "But nothing he does surprises me anymore. My first year and a half, I always was amazed. I'm beyond that now."
A year ago, Forsberg put a jersey over his shirt in the final minute of the Game 7 finals victory over the Devils, stepped into the bench and then joined in the postgame celebration. He didn't feel left out, but he didn't feel completely part of it, either. The Avalanche's regular-season mediocrity -- at least by the franchise's own standards -- seemed to underscore that while Colorado had managed to pull off victories over the Blues and Devils without him, he was indispensable for long-term success.
Maybe that's part of his fire, too.
He not only is a vital cog on a team that needs one victory in two games against Detroit to advance to the finals, but he has been the best player of all in the postseason.
"I didn't know what to expect when I came into the first game of the playoffs," Forsberg said. "I have been working hard off the ice, skating a little bit in August and January (before his surgeries), before I came back, even if I missed a lot of games.
"This is an easy team. I've played here for a long time. I've got great linemates. It's been easy to fit in."
And that was colorful for Forsberg.
"It's fun when you're winning," he said. "As long as we're doing that, it's great. This is really a tough series. Of course, you're talking about fun, but it's coming down to winning the games and playing hard and who wants to win."
His return also has taken some of the attention and physical heat off Joe Sakic, who spent much of the season being reminded that when Forsberg plays, most teams use their most physical defensive pair against the Swede because of the perception that the only way to control him is to goad him out of his game.
"It's really amazing," Sakic said of Forsberg's playoff showing. "But if you saw him when he came back and how hard he worked to get back, this is the best shape he's ever been in. He's rested, excited and good things are happening for him right now. It's great for our hockey club. It takes so much pressure off everybody else. You can just play."
This isn't a miracle; but it does qualify as amazing.

von:ESPN.com

Mats

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29.05.2002 11:49
#64 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
Corniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii hasse wat zu sagen???

In Antwort auf:
Espansion Teams


Robert (argh nein nicht hauen) was sind denn Espansion Teams?

Und nochmal Corni
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das sollte nämlich zeigen wieviele falsch denken
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Du glaubst doch net im Ernst, dass ich darauf 'reinfalle ...


erläutere mal

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habs schon geändert .... aber gut ... ab FREITAG werde ICH lachen ... und Stefan ...



Chrisch wieso denn am Freitag - wir spielen heute abend!!!


cheers Stefan
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29.05.2002 13:19
#65 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
@ bigfoot

KLAR spielen wir HEUTE nacht, aber feiern werden wir EEEEEEWIG !!!!!!!

@ schobbert

ja, ja .... sich über meinen rechtschreibfehler witzig machen ... du MEMBER of E S P A N S I O N !!!!



LET´s GO AVS! BRING BACK HOME LORD STANLEY to MILE HIGH !!!



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29.05.2002 22:35
#66 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
Avs going back to the future
For Game 6, players seek seventh game mind-set
By Adrian Dater
Denver Post Sports Writer


Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - If recent history is an indicator, the Colorado Avalanche will lose tonight.

Recent history says the Avalanche loses games it can afford to lose, and tonight's Game 6 of the Western Conference finals is one of those games.

That explains why members of the Avalanche are trying to talk themselves into believing Game 6 against the Detroit Red Wings is really Game 7.

"We have to look at it that way," Avalanche goalie Patrick Roy said. "We have to look at it like it's our Game 7."

The defending Stanley Cup champion Avalanche can advance to the Finals for the second consecutive season with a win, which would give the Avs their fourth series victory against Detroit in five meetings since 1996. So history does show the Avs know how to close out a series against the Red Wings.

But the Avs still have unpleasant memories of a 1999 game in which they could have closed out an opponent at home for a Western Conference crown in a Game 6. Against the Dallas Stars, the Avs had just come off a big Game 5 road victory, but lost Game 6 at home and lost the series in Dallas the following game.

That has nothing to do with the present, but the worrisome aspect of this season's Avalanche team is its tendency to let teams back into a series. A loss tonight, and even though they've won their past two games at Joe Louis Arena, the Avs know they'll be pushing their luck trying to make it three in a row in a Game 7. The Avs have lost their past two seventh games on the road, both to Dallas, and nobody wants to go back to Detroit.

"If there's any team that knows the importance of a Game 6, it's us," Roy said.

The Avalanche twice has gone into an opposing building staring at elimination from the playoffs in the past 12 months (New Jersey last season, San Jose this month) in a Game 6 and won, and then gone on to win Game 7 at home.

Detroit is capable of doing the same, which is why there wasn't much of a celebratory feel in the Avalanche dressing room Monday night after Game 5.

"We know they're going to be at their best, and we have to step it up as well," Avalanche captain Joe Sakic said. "I know it's going to be hard. We're going to have to be at our best and play well and hard."

Former Avs right wing Dave Reid was a member of the Dallas team that beat Colorado in the 1999 Western finals. Reid remembered how some had counted the Stars out after they lost 7-5 in Game 5, falling behind 3-2 in the series.

"We just took it one period at a time after that," Reid said. "We stuck together. Any team that is facing elimination is dangerous because they're desperate."

Mike Keane, now with the Avs, was on that Stars team, too, and the one that beat Colorado the following year.

"It's true: The fourth game is always the hardest to win," Keane said. "You just have to keep doing the things that got you that far, though. If you do that, you'll do OK."

The Avalanche has raised its game in the past four periods against the Red Wings, outshooting them a combined 39-35, after being badly outshot in the series. The Avs are trapping more in the neutral zone, which may be cutting down on a few chances of their own at the offensive end, but is limiting Detroit.

Roy, bidding for his sixth trip to the Finals, has allowed only five goals in the past three games, two of which have gone to overtime. And the Red Wings have had no answer for Peter Forsberg.

But Roy is aware of his team's occasional lapses in big games at home. If his teammates don't consider tonight's game a must-win, if they think they'll be OK if they don't, they could finally fall off the tightrope they've negotiated so well the past 12 months.

"It's going to be a tough, tough game," Roy said. "Every game in this series has gone down the wire, just about, and we shouldn't expect this one to be any different. It's important for us to know that, and to know this is going to be our biggest challenge of the season."



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Robert # 4 Offline

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29.05.2002 22:43
#67 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
@Stefan & Chris: ist ganz einfach: Es gibt Expansionteams und Espansionteam. Die ersten kann man lassen, die letzteren... Uiuiui... Das sind welche... Eieiei... Die saugen halt...

Wenn schon dann bitte den Cup zur den O-Six.

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30.05.2002 09:24
#68 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
Guten Morgen, Ihr Lieben!

Colorado vs. Detroit 3:3

Detroit veterans find net to force Game 7

DENVER (AP) -- Brendan Shanahan said he didn't sleep well after missing an open net in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals.
He made sure that wasn't a problem after Game 6.
Shanahan broke out of his scoring slump with a goal in the first period, and Dominik Hasek stopped 24 shots as the Red Wings beat the Colorado Avalanche 2-0 Wednesday night to force a Game 7.


"You tell yourself good things when you're getting close and hitting posts, but it's still very frustrating,'' Shanahan said. "I personally wanted to have a big night, but I don't think it was a night of personal gains.''
Detroit broke a four-game losing streak in elimination games dating to a victory over St. Louis in the 1996 conference semifinals.
Colorado will have to play a Game 7 for the fourth straight series -- extending its own league record -- and for the fifth time in its last six series.
The Avalanche have won four straight Game 7s, including victories over Los Angeles and San Jose this year.
Game 7 is Friday night in Detroit (ESPN, 7 p.m. ET).
"We are not happy going back to Detroit,'' Colorado goalie Patrick Roy said. "It is a big challenge, but it's been like this for us all year. We have a hard time making it easy on ourselves.''
The Red Wings rallied from eight one-goal deficits in the first five games, but didn't need any comebacks this time.
Shanahan, criticized for his lack of production in the series, opened the scoring with 38 seconds left in the first period on a shot that Roy thought he stopped.
Roy raised his glove, thinking he caught Shanahan's shot from the slot, but the puck hit the ice and trickled into the net. Roy briefly tried to argue the call, then bent over and covered his mask with both gloves in frustration.
"I didn't know if I had it in my glove,'' said Roy, who stopped 26 shots. "I held my glove up looking for the puck and it rolled back.''
It was Shanahan's fifth goal of the playoffs, but his first since Game 4 against St. Louis in the second round. He hit a post with two minutes left in regulation in Game 5, which Colorado won 2-1 in overtime.
It was also the first time Detroit scored the first goal in the series and the Red Wings' first lead in regulation since the third period of Game 1.
"Sometimes when you get the lead you sit back, and I was glad we didn't,'' Detroit coach Scott Bowman said.
Darren McCarty made it 2-0 with 6:33 left in the second after a Colorado turnover in Detroit's zone.
Colorado was trying to set up near the right circle, but Peter Forsberg couldn't reach a back pass by Martin Skoula. McCarty beat Roy stickside with a slap shot from the left faceoff dot after keeping the puck on a 3-on-1 break.
It was McCarty's first goal since scoring three straight in the third period of Game 1.
"I thought 1-0, we were all right, but 2-0 was a different game for them,'' Colorado's Chris Drury said. "They could sit back a little more.''
Hasek, who allowed goals at critical moments in the previous two games, was spectacular at times in earning his fourth shutout of the playoffs this year and 10th of his career.
He turned away a flip shot by Milan Hejduk on a power play in the second period, then sprawled out to stop Hejduk from close range a few minutes later.
Hasek also made a skate save on a hard shot by Joe Sakic during a power play in the third, and a sliding stop on Steven Reinprecht a few seconds later.
"They had their chances, but Dom came up big when he needed to,'' Detroit's Chris Chelios said.
Colorado raised the ire of the Red Wings in the second period by asking the officials to check the width of Hasek's stick.
Hasek reluctantly agreed to hand over his stick, then made repeated motions to get it back after the officials ruled it to be within the 3½-inch limit.
The move resulted in a bench penalty against Colorado and wiped out 1:23 of a power play.
"We had information that Hasek was playing with an illegal stick and down 2-0 with 1:20 on the power play, we thought the timing was right,'' Colorado coach Bob Hartley said. "Sometimes in games you try some things that work. Unfortunately for us, that one didn't.''
Colorado, already thin on the front lines due to injuries, lost forward Stephane Yelle to a sprained neck midway through the second period.
Injuries to Mike Keane (ribs), Alex Tanguay (leg) and Dan Hinote (leg) forced Colorado to move defenseman Pascal Trepanier to forward.

Game notes
Roy has faced 130 shots in the past three games. ... McCarty leads the Red Wings with four goals in the series. ... Trepanier played just his second game of the playoffs. ... Colorado has failed to score on its last 13 power plays. ... Detroit's Brett Hull was injured early in the second when he hit the backboards after tangling with Rob Blake, but later returned.



Shanahan sparks Red Wings' clutch effort

By Lindsay Berra
ESPN The Magazine

DENVER -- Patrick Roy thought he had it in his glove.
A point-blank shot from Detroit's Steve Yzerman went Roy's way with just 40 seconds left in the opening period of Wednesday's Game 6, and when Roy raised his glove in his own unique style, the Colorado goalie thought he made the save.


He didn't. Roy instead swept the puck back towards the goal line, and a charging Brendan Shanahan slammed it home.
A dejected Roy held his head in his hands, and an elated Shanahan ended one big slump.


It was Shanahan's first goal since May 11 and his first goal on 23 shots in the series, helping Detroit beat Colorado 2-0 to force a Game 7 in the West finals.
"I charged the net looking for garbage and when I got there, it was waiting for me," Shanahan said. "I was way in the high slot when Stevie (Yzerman) took the shot. I thought I saw something behind Roy, and I just hoped it was the puck."
Shanahan's goal marked the first time in the series Detroit drew first blood in a game, and the Red Wings successfully defended it. Detroit's penalty killers stifled Colorado's power play -- the Avalanche went 0-4 -- and promptly swarmed Avs sniper Peter Forsberg each time he touch the puck, holding him to just one shot on goal in the game.
"Sometimes when you get the lead you sit back, and I'm glad we didn't. That was something," Detroit coach Scotty Bowman said. "The second goal seemed to spur us on. A two-goal lead is definitely better than one."
That second tally came from Darren McCarty, the scrappy right winger who scored on a perfectly placed slap shot just out of the reach of Roy's right leg pad.
"On the flight here, the guys were upbeat and confident. We said that coming into Colorado facing elimination would be a test of character and unity," Shanahan said. "The guys were calm and prepared, and the effort was intense."
Facing elimination, the Red Wings played their most physical game of the series. Defensemen Jiri Fischer and Chris Chelios, and high-flying center Sergei Fedorov all led the way with six hits each, and the Wings outhit the Avs 58-48. They forechecked and took advantage of the Avs' hesitant newcomers (Pascal Trepanier and Radim Vrbata were playing their first game of the series), repeatedly forcing Colorado to cough up the puck before it could move it to the blue line.
Detroit goaltender Dominik Hasek looked more solid than he has in the first five games of the series, perhaps because of Avalanche coach Bob Hartley's attack on his integrity in the final minutes of the second period.
While on the power play, Hartley called for the referees to check the measurement of Hasek's stick. It measured up just fine, falling below the maximum width of 3½ inches. Because he was wrong, Hartley gave up his team's man advantage.
"I have sticks from the factory that are maybe one millimeter illegal, but I would never play with it in the playoffs," Hasek said. "I was really happy they checked it, because I knew they were going to get a penalty."
Now, it's the Avs on the hot seat. Detroit has won the depth contest from the get-go, and is still rolling four well-balanced lines. The injury-laden Avs will be playing without Mike Keane (ribs), Alex Tanguay (leg) and Dan Hinote (leg), and possibly without Stephane Yelle, who suffered a neck sprain on a hit by Kirk Maltby in the second period.
Detroit will take advantage of that President's Trophy and head back to Joe Louis Arena for Game 7. Not that home ice has meant much in this series -- the road team has won four of the six games.
"When we lose, we're old. When we win, we're experienced," McCarty said. "This was all experience. We knew we had to come in here and win a game on the road, and we did."
Now, we'll see if experience can get the mighty Red Wings a series-clincher at the Joe.


Depleted Avs face Game 7 in rowdy Detroit

By Terry Frei
Special to ESPN.com

DENVER -- The Colorado Avalanche's biggest task? After applying a seventh-game urgency to Wednesday night's Game 6 against the Red Wings in Denver, but losing, they have to tell themselves:
Never mind. No big deal.
And they have to believe it.
"We're going to battle until the last second and we're going to Detroit with the firm intention of coming back here for Game 1 of the finals," Colorado coach Bob Hartley said after the Wings' series-tying 2-0 victory Wednesday night.
Suddenly, though, the Avalanche seem in dire straits, and this is the rare instance of not overreacting to the outcome of a single game.
The Avalanche were two lines and a prayer to start with, but now that the injuries are mounting, they're more like two lines and the Hershey Bears.
Dan Hinote, Mike Keane and Alex Tanguay almost certainly will miss Game 7, as they missed Game 6.
Plus, there is the issue of mentally having to change gears from what was their understandable approach going into Game 6. They were saying that had to consider it an issue of win-or-else desperation.
The core of the team still remembered how home ice suddenly became advantageous for the Stars in seventh games at Dallas in the Western Conference finals in 1999 and 2000, and how the Avalanche mantra after that became trying to ensure that any seventh games would be played in a Denver barn. The biggest missed opportunity, the Avs said over and over, came when they failed in a chance to close out the Stars in Game 6 of the 1999 Western Conference finals at home.
Plus, the Avalanche themselves have reasserted home-ice control in Game 7s against Los Angeles (twice), New Jersey and San Jose in the 2001 and 2002 playoffs.
They heard the Devils lament that they, too, had really lost a series – in this case, last year's Stanley Cup finals – when they didn't win a Game 6 at home against the Avalanche.
But now the Avalanche are getting right back on the charter flight Thursday, heading back to the land of the octopii for a winner-gets-the-Hurricanes Game 7.
To have any shot at all, they must convince themselves that they haven't let the Wings off the hook, and Patrick Roy must get beyond denial long enough to get angry over his latest gaffe.
Roy apparently indulged in a bit of grandstanding, trying to show off the puck after stopping a Steve Yzerman shot. He lost control, allowing Brendan Shanahan an easy tap-in for the first goal Wednesday night.
"I thought I had the puck, and I made a great save on Yzerman," Roy said. "I thought I had it in my glove, I was looking for the puck. I guess it just rolled under me and they put it in."
That they did. It was the first time in the series Detroit scored the first goal of the game, and this time, it held up.
Game 7 is the ultimate "money" game, of course, so perhaps this is a fitting climax to a series involving Roy's attempt to refortify his image as the goaltender hockey men would want in the crease if their lives depended on the outcome of one three-period, high-tension, high-stakes night.
And down in the other crease?
Dominik Hasek, who has all those regular-season trophies on his resume -- Hart, Vezina -- and an Olympic gold medal in a business that sometimes treats them as if they are roughly as valuable as Confederate currency in 1881.
Hasek needed to step up and steal a monumental stakes playoff game before he had the right to pop off about the play in front of him, and that's pretty close to what he did in Game 6. He had 24 saves, but he made the big, acrobatic ones when they mattered, and he helped avoid what would have an ignominious and recrimination-triggering series loss for a team built with two goals in mind -- beating Colorado and winning the Stanley Cup.
Does Colorado have a chance Friday?
Of course.
This road-warrior series has seen the team in the darker uniforms win four times in six games, and it even has included what might never happen again in the NHL -- two spleenless Swedes (Fredrik Olausson and Peter Forsberg) scoring overtime goals to give their teams wins away from home.
The Colorado elite talent still is capable of making the sort of superlative, breathtaking plays that can turn a game – whether that means Forsberg writing another remarkable chapter in his comeback story; Joe Sakic beating Hasek with a wrist shot (or two); Chris Drury coming up with another "winning" play; Rob Blake overcoming what now is known to be the hand-area injury that has accompanied his leg problem; or Roy simply saying, all right, that's enough, and erecting an impenetrable plane in front of the Colorado net.
But against a team with so much talent, and with an elite goalie of its own, the reality probably is that Colorado probably has gotten the most out of a drastically tiered roster -- just to get to a seventh game against a better team.
Yes, anything can happen in a Game 7.
But that includes running head-on into the law of averages.

Terry Frei of The Denver Post is a regular contributor to ESPN.com.






Carolina Hurricanes

Carolina endures bad times to reach finals

Associated Press

RALEIGH, N.C. -- This is a franchise with a miserable postseason past, the NHL's youngest coach and a collection of players who aren't exactly household names.
No wonder the hockey world is stunned that the Carolina Hurricanes are playing for the Stanley Cup.
At the start of the season, Las Vegas gave 40-to-1 odds that the Hurricanes would win hockey's top prize.
But Carolina will be playing in June, a month when the Bermuda grass is in full bloom on North Carolina's golf courses and the temperature hits the mid-90s.
The Hurricanes, who moved South five seasons ago from Hartford, Conn., won the Eastern Conference championship Tuesday night by beating the Toronto Maple Leafs 2-1 in overtime, capturing the best-of-seven series 4-2.
The franchise, which gets little national television exposure, was 1-11 in playoff series before beating New Jersey, Montreal and the Maple Leafs this spring. Carolina became the first team since the 1985 Edmonton Oilers to win three straight series on the road.
"When you are in a situation like Detroit, the expectations are there and the only type of emotion you feel is disappointment if you don't get the Cup," said defenseman Aaron Ward, who was traded by the Red Wings to Carolina in the offseason. "We're put in a situation here where the sky is the limit and nobody sets any standards for us. As we go along it's more exciting to achieve that level of surprise.''
About 700 screaming fans greeted the team when it arrived early Wednesday at Raleigh-Durham International Airport, while several miles away fans began lining up at 3 a.m. to buy tickets to the Cup finals at the Entertainment and Sports Arena box office.
When the windows opened five hours later, tickets to Games 3, 4, and 6 were sold out in 35 minutes.
"There is tremendous interest here, and the people are so genuinely happy and they feel, rightfully so, that they have a piece of this and are a big part of it,'' coach Paul Maurice said.
Ward said he was shocked when he turned his radio on at 2 a.m. during his drive home.
"They were giving updates that three lanes were jammed outside of the ESA,'' Ward said. "I am very impressed with what has gone on here. You can't help but get caught up in the excitement and the emotion of the moment. The fact that our fans are again disregarding their jobs and their families to camp out at 3 and 4 in the morning, that says a lot about what this has done for this city.''
Carolina's unexpected march to the Cup finals relied on defense, goaltending and timely scoring. The Hurricanes allowed just 29 goals in 18 playoff games, Arturs Irbe had a 1.41 goals-against average and 10 different players scored game-winning goals.
One other important component -- confidence.
"I guess the thing you learn the most is that winning does a lot more for your team than any speeches, any strategies, any adjustments,'' the 35-year-old Maurice said. "That belief that you can win, even when it's not going your way, is the critical lesson for us in these playoffs.''
Maurice, who came close to being fired in December, said he and others spent time on the team plane reflecting on the franchise's hard times -- both on the ice and in the stands.
"There were a lot of quiet moments on the plane,'' Maurice said. "At the front of my seat there is a TV and a mirror and I just kind of enjoyed watching the guys enjoy it.''
"For me, it's more about my staff and the guys that have been in place a long time,'' Maurice added. "We came to work (Wednesday) and smiled at each other. There was a serious lack of tension in the office today, which is a nice change. It will build back up to the normal pitch.''
Ward laughed when asked about another wave of media that will converge on Raleigh with questions about the viability of the market, which has gone Cup crazy the last six weeks.
"Now we'll have all the people from the international media, from Japan and Finland, asking where the NASCAR tracks are. We'll re-direct them,'' Ward said. "If that's the best they've got to make fun of, let's be happy. We're not the murder capital of the world or the worst dressed place. So we're Mayberry -- oh well.''


Maurice's 'mongrels' follow suit vs. Toronto

By E.J. Hradek
ESPN The Magazine

TORONTO -- It didn't take long for the Carolina Hurricanes to embrace the underdog role in the upcoming Stanley Cup finals.
Just minutes after their Eastern Conference title-clinching 2-1 overtime win in Toronto on Tuesday night, Hurricanes coach Paul Maurice joked that the club had applied for "underdog status." (He said he was waiting to hear from the media concerning the request.)
Maurice doesn't seem to care that his "mongrels" -- as he called them -- will be a decided underdog against either Colorado or Detroit.
"We will not be favored," Maurice said. "But then again, were we at any point?"
When you think about, they really haven't been.
The Southeast Division champions certainly weren't the favorite against the defending Eastern Conference champs and perennial power Devils in the first round. Yet, the 'Canes won in six games, clinching on the road.
In the second round, many observers -- including this one -- didn't think the Hurricanes would get past Jose Theodore and the Canadiens. But, again, they won in six games, wrapping it up with a rout on the road.
And, finally, Carolina was a 50-50 proposition, at best, to defeat the resilient Leafs, who seemed like a team with nine (or more) playoff lives. But, one more time, the Hurricanes eliminated another opponent in six games, in enemy territory.
So, it's easy to see why Maurice won't mind playing David to the Western Conference's Goliath in the final round.
"It's not any big concern," Maurice said. "We'll probably have a little fun with it.
"We'll go home, rest the mongrels and see what we can do."
What Carolina might want to do is get either the Wings or Avs into overtime. The Hurricanes, who played the most regular-season overtime games, have won six of seven when sent into extra sessions on their surprising march through the postseason.
On Tuesday at the Air Canada Centre, they worked their OT magic again. This time, the hero was another unlikely candidate. Third-line left wing Martin Gelinas, who in another lifetime was traded for Wayne Gretzky and helped the Oilers win their last Stanley Cup in 1990, potted the series-winner at 8:05 of the extra session.
The winning goal was born when Toronto winger Alexander Mogilny -- who played an otherwise strong game -- tried to clear the puck by winding it around behind his own net. Hurricanes center Josef Vasicek read Mogilny's play and broke for the far corner. He was able to corral Mogilny's clearing attempt, then make a pass to the front of the net, where both Gelinas and right wing Jaroslav Svoboda moved in for the kill. Gelinas finished the bang-bang play by deflecting the pass over Curtis Joseph's pad.
Citing Gelinas' missed overtime opportunity against Boston in a first-round series in 1999, Maurice believed it was fitting the veteran winger scored the goal that propelled the franchise into its first Cup finals.
"It's never the guys you think," Maurice said. "But, it was appropriate for Marty. He's worked so hard. He deserves a little sunshine."
Maurice, though, didn't have any idea as to why his team was so good in overtime. Right wing Jeff O'Neill, however, came up with an explanation.
"We have a good defensive system and we crash the net a lot," said O'Neill, who scored Carolina's first goal and had several other scoring chances. "That's a good recipe for overtime goals, just throw it at the net."
Now, after a few days off, these happy underdogs will get to face their biggest challenge yet. And, they know it.
"We know we are going to play against a better and stronger team," said goalie Arturs Irbe, who was superb throughout the series, allowing just six goals in the six games. "I guess in a way we were not supposed to be here.
"But we always have found a way to find the heroes at the right time and in the right games," Irbe added. "It's a great feeling because this is a team, with a capital T."
So, this team will be an underdog. But so far, betting against the Hurricanes hasn't been a winning proposition.

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30.05.2002 14:09
#69 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
das mein 300. posting so ein trauriges sein würde hätte ich wirklich nicht gedacht!


mein statement zu dem gestrigen spiel, kurz und knapp:

ein durchschnittlich spielendes und cleveres WINGS team schlägt eine katastrophal spielende "schneeball" manschaft! nix AVALANCHE ... GESTERN!

zwei krasse individuelle fehler haben das spiel entschieden, ein glänzend aufgelegter "dominator" und das glück ...

nach den "bad news" von gestern, was die verletzten der AVALANCHE angeht und der tatsache, dass es in einem GAME SEVEN doch einen HOME ICE vorteil gibt, denke ich trübe an das jahr 2000 und sehe die chancen der AVS das finale zu erreichen bei 30 zu 70 ... ...traurig aber wahr ....

naja, machen wir AVS - fans halt wie die der WINGS gestern mit dem schild "WE BELIEVE" und sehen was dabei rausgeht ... trotzdem ... fairer glückwunsch an die WINGS, den sieg GESTERN hatten sie wahrlich VERDIENT !!!

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30.05.2002 14:43
#70 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
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Eingeschnürt von allen Seiten. *g*

Die Avs hatten ihre Chance, Detroit macht jetzt den Sack zu!

Nicht das ich etwas gegen die Avs hätte, aber schon wieder Colorado im Finale....
Das wäre ein bissi langweilig.
Hasek soll seinen Ring bekommen! Das hat er verdient!

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30.05.2002 23:54
#71 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
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mein statement zu dem gestrigen spiel, kurz und knapp:

ein durchschnittlich spielendes und cleveres WINGS team schlägt eine katastrophal spielende "schneeball" manschaft! nix AVALANCHE ... GESTERN!

zwei krasse individuelle fehler haben das spiel entschieden, ein glänzend aufgelegter "dominator" und das glück ...




Wow ! Ich seh das gänzlich anders:

Für mich war dass das beste Spiel der Wings bis jetzt in dieser Serie, wenn nicht komplett in den Playoffs. Die Wings hatten das Spiel IMHO über fast die komplette Spielzeit fest im Griff, und wenn das mal nicht so war, war der Dominator in Topform. Endlich wurden mal diese blöden Turnovers im Mitteldrittel des Eises abgestellt, die die Avs solange in der Serie gehalten haben.
Ich fand das ein Weltklasse-Spiel der Wings. Und ich stimme völlig mit den Ami-Kommentatoren überein, die feststellten, dass man eindeutig gesehen hat, dass die Wings nicht gespielt haben, um nicht zu verlieren, sondern dass sie für den Sieg gespielt haben.
Das macht zwar im Endergebnis keinen Unterschied, aber diese Einstellung hat man gesehen, und die war entscheidend.

Und froh bin ich, dass Bernie "Röntgenauge" Johnston nicht bei Colorado angestellt ist...

Leider ist jedes Spiel verschieden, gerade bei zwei so gleichwertigen Teams, denn mit so einer Leistung der Wings in Game 7 hätte Colorado nicht den Hauch einer Chance. So ist alles offen, und wer weiss, vielleicht wird sogar die Overtime die Entscheidung bringen...



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01.06.2002 03:50
#72 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
7:0...man, das leben kann doch richtig schön sein!!!!
was für ein spiel, der helle wahnsinn..

@probie

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01.06.2002 08:56
#73 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
Colorado vs. Detroit 3:4

Wings put Avalanche, Roy away quickly

DETROIT (AP) -- The Detroit Red Wings chased Patrick Roy and sent the Colorado Avalanche packing.
Detroit scored on its first two shots and knocked out the Colorado goalie early in the second period as the Red Wings eliminated the defending Stanley Cup champion Avalanche with a 7-0 victory Friday night in Game 7 of the Western Conference finals.
``We thought it would be a 1-0 game, or go into overtime, or be a 2-0 game,'' Red Wings captain Steve Yzerman said. ``We were still thinking after the first period, 'This isn't the way it's supposed to be.''


Hasek
While Roy struggled, Dominik Hasek set an NHL record with his fifth shutout in one postseason.
Hasek didn't care that he set a record while helping the Red Wings move a big step closer to the ultimate prize with the largest margin of victory in an NHL Game 7.
``It doesn't mean anything,'' said Hasek, who sought a trade to Detroit to complete his resume with a Stanley Cup. ``It's nice, but I have other goals and they're not about shutouts in the playoffs.''
The Red Wings will open the Stanley Cup finals Tuesday night at home against the Carolina Hurricanes.

“ It doesn't mean anything. It's nice, but I have other goals and they're not about shutouts in the playoffs. ”
— Dominik Hasek, when asked about his record fifth shutout of the playoffs.

Hasek finished strong with 19 saves for his second consecutive shutout, while Roy allowed four goals in the first period for the first time in his storied 240-game playoff career.
``I didn't have time to feel bad for him,'' Hasek said. ``That can happen to any goalie.''
Hasek won his first Game 7 in three chances. Roy and the Avalanche had won their past four Game 7s, including two shutout victories over Los Angeles and San Jose this season.
In a dramatic series highlighted by three overtimes and spectacular play by more than a dozen future Hall of Famers, the Red Wings weren't interested in adding more drama to one of hockey's best rivalries.
Tomas Holmstrom scored the first of his two goals on Detroit's first shot, 1:57 into the game. Then 80 seconds later, Sergei Fedorov's fluttering slap shot from the left circle got past Roy.
Midway through the first period, Luc Robitaille slipped a shot through Roy's pads. Roy kicked the puck out of the net, skated to the boards to his right, then sprayed water on his face during an ensuing timeout as red-clad fans chanted ``Pa-trick! Pa-trick!''
It got even worse for Roy and the Avalanche at 12:51 of the first when the Red Wings took a 4-0 lead on Holmstrom's goal off a a rebound of Robitaille's shot.
Roy then rested for a few seconds on his back in the back of the net, probably wishing he was on a bed with covers available to pull over his head.
Brett Hull put Detroit ahead 5-0 at 4:41 of the second period with a wrist shot just over Roy's glove, then the Red Wings scored when Fredrik Olausson connected at 6:28 of the second.
After Roy let out a big sigh, Colorado coach Bob Hartley replaced him with David Aebischer for the first time this postseason.
``He didn't want to come out,'' Hartley said. ``We all know Patrick, how much of a competitor he is. ... Especially after the season that he gave us, I think that he had seen enough tonight, so it was time to give him a break.''
Roy regretted that the Avalanche didn't eliminate Detroit when they were ahead 3-2 in the series and at home for Game 6.
``There's going to be a lot of times we're going to think about that,'' Roy said. ``Game 7s are tough to win on the road.''
The Avs, along with the rest of the NHL, know that well.
They have lost their last four Game 7s on the road and the home team has won eight of the last nine Game 7s in the NHL.
Colorado became the first NHL team to play in four consecutive Game 7s, dating to last year when the Avalanche won the Stanley Cup, and joined the 1993 Toronto Maple Leafs as the only teams to play in three Game 7s in one postseason.
The Red Wings played in their first Game 7 since beating St. Louis 1-0 in overtime of the 1996 Western Conference semifinals.
These rivals, who have combined to win four of the past six Stanley Cups, met for the fifth time in the postseason since 1996, but played in a Game 7 for the first time.
While the Red Wings appeared fresh, the Avs looked understandably haggard because of their demanding postseason and short bench.
Colorado was without forwards Dan Hinote (leg) and Stephane Yelle (neck) while forwards Mike Keane and Alex Tanguay were pressed into duty despite lingering injuries.
``We have no excuses,'' Colorado captain Joe Sakic said.

Game notes
While with Buffalo, Hasek lost both Game 7s he played: the 1994 Eastern Conference finals to New Jersey and the conference semifinals last year to Pittsburgh. ... The seven goals Colorado gave up were the most in the playoffs since a 7-3 defeat to San Jose on April 30, 1999. ... Detroit shut out a playoff opponent in consecutive games for the first time since 1992. ... Detroit rookie Pavel Datsyuk added the seventh goal midway through the final period.


von: ESPN.com

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01.06.2002 10:55
#74 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
Strike
Das Spiel muss schon hart gewesen sein,in den Con-Finals im 7 Spiel 0:7 zu unterliegen...


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01.06.2002 11:33
#75 RE:Western Conference FINALS ... AVALANCHE against WINGS Antworten
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@probie

ich will die rote 12 in deiner signatur sehen..


Nichts lieber als das...
There you go...

Oh, wie ist das schön.... Oh, wie ist das schön... SO was hat man lange nicht gesehen...

Unbelieveable... ich hätte ja mit allem gerechnet, was weiss ich, ein 0-0 nach 5 Verlängerungen, aber damit... never...
Ich frage mich nur, warum die Coloforsberg Avalanche überhaupt den Flug nach Hockeytown angetreten sind, denn dass, was sie da geboten haben, war ja garnichts... Hätten sie sich auch wirklich sparen können...




Das wird nicht der einzige Cup sein, den Stevie Y noch hochstemmt dieses Jahr...



Trotz dieses Debakels im 7. Spiel war es eine grosse Serie !!! Werbung fürs Eishockey...
Wäre auch ein würdiges Stanley-Cup-Finale gewesen ! Es war das Duell der beiden klar besten Mannschaften der Welt...



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